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Some of my, um, most cherished memories are of working

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with, um, the survivors on their books. Sitting with them,

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um, asking questions, which sometimes were difficult, uh,

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because, memories are fallible

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and, um, you, um, read through a manuscript

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and you notice that there are inconsistencies.

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And it was really important to us to fact check

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and to ensure that what we were publishing, um, was correct

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from an historical perspective.

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It can be a really fine, tricky balance

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to honour an author's truth

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and match that with historical truth.

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We do come up against issues with memory

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and history and documentation all the time.

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So we make changes, we do editorial intervention,

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and we do make those changes.

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And when an author is living

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and we, we need to tell them that we've made these changes,

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that can be a really difficult conversation.

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You know, I, one of our survivors called me very tough.

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Uh, lovely, but tough, uh,

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because I would ask really specific questions.

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You know, you get one thing wrong

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or you don't fact check something,

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and then it can call a whole memoir into question.